Comments on: Tiny Free House Wall Framing Plan http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/2008/08/05/tiny-free-house-wall-framing-plan/ Searching for the true value of a home... Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:54:07 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Dave Gray http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/2008/08/05/tiny-free-house-wall-framing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-59 Dave Gray Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:16:43 +0000 http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/?p=40#comment-59 I am planning a grass roof for a converted 20 ft. shipping container. I am planning a grass roof for a converted 20 ft. shipping container.

]]> By: Michael Janzen http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/2008/08/05/tiny-free-house-wall-framing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-58 Michael Janzen Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:11:42 +0000 http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/?p=40#comment-58 Great Comments Dave... Thanks! You're absolutely right. That seam would weaken the whole thing. I've actually been really troubled with the whole sturdiness issue and know it can be solved with design and common sense. Thanks for the reality check. I'm actually reworking the framing and floor plan now that I have accurate dimensions for the trailer. So your comments came at the right time. Love the roof/goat ideas. Now that is out-of-the-box thinking! Great Comments Dave… Thanks! You’re absolutely right. That seam would weaken the whole thing. I’ve actually been really troubled with the whole sturdiness issue and know it can be solved with design and common sense. Thanks for the reality check. I’m actually reworking the framing and floor plan now that I have accurate dimensions for the trailer. So your comments came at the right time.

Love the roof/goat ideas. Now that is out-of-the-box thinking!

]]> By: Dave Gray http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/2008/08/05/tiny-free-house-wall-framing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-57 Dave Gray Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:50:47 +0000 http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/?p=40#comment-57 Couple of things: I think I am seeing this right. Common size exterior wall frames makes for ease of assembly, but it also puts a uniform weakness at the mid horizontal line of each wall. No matter how it is fastened, a common joint line like that spells disaster structurally. Even staggering a longer on the top next to a longer on the bottom next to a longer on the top next to a longer on the bottom would break the weakness of that joint. Second: I do not know where you are and what is going to fall on the roof, but why does it need a pitch? Why not make the walls three panels high and make a flat roof. Cover it with sheet plastic and sod. Pitched roofs are for shedding snow and are much more complex to construct. Taller walls give you a bigger loft. Put a pygmy goat on the roof for a while ever day to keep it trimmed up. Couple of things:

I think I am seeing this right. Common size exterior wall frames makes for ease of assembly, but it also puts a uniform weakness at the mid horizontal line of each wall. No matter how it is fastened, a common joint line like that spells disaster structurally. Even staggering a longer on the top next to a longer on the bottom next to a longer on the top next to a longer on the bottom would break the weakness of that joint.

Second: I do not know where you are and what is going to fall on the roof, but why does it need a pitch? Why not make the walls three panels high and make a flat roof. Cover it with sheet plastic and sod. Pitched roofs are for shedding snow and are much more complex to construct. Taller walls give you a bigger loft. Put a pygmy goat on the roof for a while ever day to keep it trimmed up.

]]> By: Michael Janzen http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/2008/08/05/tiny-free-house-wall-framing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-40 Michael Janzen Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:39:55 +0000 http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/?p=40#comment-40 This weekend I'm planing on knocking together a few panels. I have a couple ideas on how to connect the pallet boards but you're 100% right... I'll only know if this is going to work once I try to make it work. I bet a sliding glass door would pop right off it's track. I'm ditching that fleeting idea right now. Can you imagine driving behind my tiny house and get a 3x7 foot door in your wind shield?! Bad idea all around. Thanks for being a sounding board. This weekend I’m planing on knocking together a few panels. I have a couple ideas on how to connect the pallet boards but you’re 100% right… I’ll only know if this is going to work once I try to make it work.

I bet a sliding glass door would pop right off it’s track. I’m ditching that fleeting idea right now. Can you imagine driving behind my tiny house and get a 3×7 foot door in your wind shield?! Bad idea all around. Thanks for being a sounding board.

]]> By: EJ http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/2008/08/05/tiny-free-house-wall-framing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-39 EJ Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:12:32 +0000 http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/?p=40#comment-39 I would suggest building a section or two of your walls soon before you collect more pallets to see if it come out like you want it. Don't know how sliding doors do on a trailer. I would suggest building a section or two of your walls soon before you collect more pallets to see if it come out like you want it.
Don’t know how sliding doors do on a trailer.

]]> By: Michael Janzen http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/2008/08/05/tiny-free-house-wall-framing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Michael Janzen Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:50:04 +0000 http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/?p=40#comment-38 That would help. Thats for the suggestion. We've actually noticed a lot of sliding glass doors free on craigslist too... that might be an option. What do you think of that idea? That would help. Thats for the suggestion.

We’ve actually noticed a lot of sliding glass doors free on craigslist too… that might be an option. What do you think of that idea?

]]> By: EJ http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/2008/08/05/tiny-free-house-wall-framing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-37 EJ Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:45:05 +0000 http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/?p=40#comment-37 Perhaps the door should open outwards rather than in? You would gain a lot of space. Perhaps the door should open outwards rather than in?
You would gain a lot of space.

]]> By: Michael Janzen http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/2008/08/05/tiny-free-house-wall-framing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-36 Michael Janzen Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:24:25 +0000 http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/?p=40#comment-36 Shingles have the advantage of an overlap too. Hmmmm you might be onto something. Thanks! Shingles have the advantage of an overlap too. Hmmmm you might be onto something. Thanks!

]]> By: Wayne http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/2008/08/05/tiny-free-house-wall-framing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-35 Wayne Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:05:36 +0000 http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/?p=40#comment-35 Consider staggering the exterior wall siding like shingles. That would solve the problem. It's worked for centuries on millions of other homes. Consider staggering the exterior wall siding like shingles. That would solve the problem. It’s worked for centuries on millions of other homes.

]]> By: Michael Janzen http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/2008/08/05/tiny-free-house-wall-framing-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-34 Michael Janzen Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:43:55 +0000 http://www.tinyfreehouse.com/?p=40#comment-34 Good point David. I was thinking that the glue (like liquid nails or comparable building adhesive) would do the trick but I probably shouldn't rely on that since that mechanical connection will probably break down over time. Designing the system to work better with just the wood does make a lot of sense. Thanks! Good point David. I was thinking that the glue (like liquid nails or comparable building adhesive) would do the trick but I probably shouldn’t rely on that since that mechanical connection will probably break down over time. Designing the system to work better with just the wood does make a lot of sense. Thanks!

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